I wasn't aware of the 3 months check. Yet I come on this forum and nearly every single hopeful has 4 LORs from all sorts of military personnel and powerful individuals. Your Visit to MEPS All enlisted recruits are evaluated at MEPS Your recruiter helps prepare you for MEPS broke my nose in December and had surgery to fix the break and take care of some sinus problems. Having inconsistencies on your forms vs verbal answers is usually a major issue and will make it very difficult for you to get into the Marines now. I plan on waiting the 6 months. I also had to have my opthalmologist fill out a form called MEPS Refractive Eye Surgery worksheet.Look at MANMED regarding LASIK. The cousin survived, and revealed she was deep in a gambling debt. Processing Stations (MEPS) Your visit to a Military Entrance Processing Station (MEPS) determines your mental aptitude, as well as physical and moral qualifications for enlistment in the Army. I think the chief issue is your pattern of distrust..and confidence in superiors. For instance another friend went to meps and when he was doing the eye portion he was wearing contacts and the guy checking him didn't even notice. They only care in the beginning because they don't want to waste money on you for "XYZ" reason for processing, no matter how bullshit it is. 2. So if you do lie and something goes wrong at buds, they do have the right to dig through your medical history and they will probably find out about the surgery and lasik. uuugh, it was hot. Option 1: Being truthful and working a waiver that is doable. I got disqualified to join the Air Force/military and I wanted to let you all know what was going on and how I was disqualified by MEPS.. Seriously folks, stop with the medical determinations. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Well today I reserved an 11x op 40 contract with plans to go to MEPS Tues/Wed. So I was told to go into his office and asked me if I was lying about any paperwork and that is there anything I didn't disclose with my recruiter or if I have done drugs. Lying at MEPS is punishable by a $10,000 fine and 5 years in prison. Press J to jump to the feed. I called the head recruiting office in my district and he said the same thing (trust but verify), that letters of rec are no longer considered important to packages. I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if its a no go or not . It is not the recruiters job to get you into the military, nor is it MEPS' job to disqualify you. I knew she couldn't hack it but she joined anyways). By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Yes, you need to be caught in the lie, but that isn't as difficult as you might think. Stuck waiting for MEPS to process my info from Military to Military as well as MEPS to MEPS. Always good advice. That's just the way it happens. You will not be able to live the Army values and lead Soldiers in the future. Please don't sabotage your own union's efforts on your behalf. Lost the navigator slot and was made a C130 mechanic. And also a expunged ticket and felony charges. HELP!!! The purpose of this script is to help protect users from doxing, stalking, and harassment. Want to learn about deploying, finances, mental health, cross-rating, and more? My ex, who was batshit crazy, probably Bi-polar and was on meds most of her teen life lied about it ALL at MEPs. So its been about 2 weeks now and have been too scared to talk to him. Retired in '02 as a Senior Chief(E-8 for you landlubbers). She could have been honest about her history and told the Recruiter, who would have told MEPS, who would have requested a waiver, and she would have had a chance at a waiver by doing some additional evaluation. You probably dont even have ADHD because they hand out those diagnoses to kids like Candy. A magnifying glass. Post by Cisco4711 January 12th, 2010, 7:10 am. I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didn't they found it at meps . When I went to MEPs, like most people, I had something to lie about. Do not lie, falsify, or hide information. You need to provide all documents not just a cover letter or info sheet. Know all the risks and procedure limitations. Your Recruiter will not be the one getting in troubleit will be you. First, psychiatrists, psychologists, and sometimes doctors might not directly tell their patients their actual diagnoses because of the stigma and fear surrounding Mental Health. Handle this the right way, as you should all things. That sent me down a long road of having to get a waiver for something that had no current medical basis and was utter medical fraud. Don't even mention the scar unless they ask then keep it minimal "that was just from when I was a kid" if they ask more "yeah I was biking and fell" simple is good. Come visit our wiki over in r/Navy. The main difference between them is that with LASIK, a corneal flap is created and replaced, and with LASEK, the top layer of the cornea is loosened, moved, and reattached. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. He passed MEPS, signed a contract, and entered Basic Military Training (BMT). I'm guessing you're done. In my experience meps isn't that deep of a medical check and it's fairly disorganized. After a long conversation with my doc he said there is no way for them to find out unless you tell them. He told me not to worry about it and say "no". I think the individual is still at the MEPS stage of enlistment, and if I have understood him correctly, he is awaiting a medical waiver of sorts. May 6, 2020. One new winner* is announced every week! I have changed a few details to maintain anonymity, however the basics of the stories are very real and did happen. My recruiter is telling me that some things are best left unsaid. One guy kept getting ahold of his prrsonal items somehow and got caught playing a saxophone in the barracks. john danaher instructional videos 21 years active duty,kept my mouth shut about stuff that just did not need to be amplified. I've done the 1 month check and will do the 6, 3 months is coming up so I'll have to get that on the books. Lying will. I would say lying at meps is a low risk high reward type of deal. Anything that deals with flying can cause problems with some that have had Lasik. I know I have to be able to function without medication and I can, but have not been consistently been of the medication simply because of the existence of standardized tests should I lie to my recruiter and say that while I have such a prescription I have been off it for atleast the minimum time period states or should I be honest because in reality it doesnt take a long time to get off a medication completely atleast for ADHD medications which are stimulants and what they dont know wont hurt them because my ADHD does not really effect me much at all anymore. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Should I be honest with my recruiter and try to get a waiver? Lying at MEPS about medical or mental health history is a really bad idea with serious consequences, as stated on the Army enlistment contract you sign. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/, https://www.public.navy.mil/netc/centers/ceneoddive/ndstc/documents/manmed_chap15.pdf. I got to certain sections and told him I have to say "yes" to these questions and I knew how important they were. Put me in the disqualified for medical category. It could just be too early that they do not want to be responsible if there is a tear due to your eyes are still healing. Its in your best interest to get through MEPS. If your eyes are otherwise healthy, the services will usually waive up to 5 diopters of cylinder (astigmatism). She said a recent one had about 30 pages regarding the procedure. This was the man who my friend had confessed his pot usage to when we first showed up a month ago, but now my friend lied to him and he accepted the lie without hesitation. They determined she only had typical "walking" pneumonia, meaning she would just be held back for 1-2 weeks and join another BMT flight to graduation. Do not lie, falsify, or hide information. The wrist has handled push ups every other day since I was cleared to get back to it and my eyes are perfect, but I'll know for sure at 6 months. For candidates lurking here, seeing how the post might apply to their own application, whether for SA or ROTC or OCS: If you have to ask should I Iie, then you already know the answer. They said "No problem, we'll work around it." Here is the Press Release. For instance another friend went to meps and when he was doing the eye portion he was wearing contacts and the guy checking him didn't even notice. a) Check our wiki b) Run a search c) Post your question with a *clear and specific title*, Press J to jump to the feed. My recruiter went the other direction, really stressed "Make sure you disclose EVERYTHING". You may need further evaluation or counseling before you can live a rigorous military lifestyle. The paper requests numbers from the pre-surgery, 90 days after pre-surgery, and a month after that. It indicates, "Click to perform a search". See TheBeneGesseritWitch's guide on Paths to become an Officer. In my experience meps isn't that deep of a medical check and it's fairly disorganized. Or should I be honest with my recruiter and if I cant get a waiver, lie at MEPS. Personally, go find another doctor that is ex-military that can weed through the BS. they'll find out if you need a Top Secret security clearance or if the issue comes up. Do people go to jail for lying at MEPS? He might have been denied, or if he was approved, he would at least have been more prepared to handle the BMT experience. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Stupid kids want the power, the prestige, the money, the sweet benefitsthe military has a lot to offer. KUDOS! Generally speaking, no. So I'm trying to go into USMC and I have been talking with this recruiter for a few months now. You're still not getting it. Recruits who pass their physical and have no prior history may be accepted because the military does not routinely pull medical information. ; and he asked my friend if he had ever smoked pot. I haven't seriously considered joining a branch since my accident in 2003, but it still crosses my mind from time to time. This is for prior service and new applicants. Idk if the policy is 1 or 3 years, Ive encountered both. This is a process a person goes through after they have gone through the medical screening to join the army. My 90 day period was more like 2 months, because that's when they called me back for a followup, so it wouldn't have made sense (distance traveled and financially) to go back a month later for a '90 day' followup. Lasik and Meps processing Currently trying to fill out a packet for OCS, but my recruiter informed me that meps declined my medical history. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. I am going into the marines and have a contract to go to security school where you need a TS if you complete it. why worry about it if it becomes a problem deal with it then. The criminal background check and security clearance investigations can and do find sealed records. We have been contacted by major union legal teams regarding this issue. In the end, I did everything I could to prove I was completely fine. But Im afraid that they will go back on my medical records and find out I lied . http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tool+bag&defid=1959463. So ur saying stay off the pills for 90 days and I doesnt come up?how? He hadn't told them he had lasik. Seems ridiculous that I had the surgery over a year ago and this is the only thing stopping me from getting processed in MEPs. Went to MEPS the next morning and everything was normal until medical debriefing. He told them. My cousin was in line for a navigator slot when he joined the Marines. I was completely honest and I served honorably for 8 years. What will you do at PI or San Diego when the withdrawal symptoms hit? My gramma always told me I had to be able to look at myself in the mirror, and know that if I couldn't-- I wouldn't sleep well at night. Currently trying to fill out a packet for OCS, but my recruiter informed me that meps declined my medical history. Further investigation found she had a suicide gesture about 6 years earlier due to stress from a recently ended relationship, loneliness (had no friends for support), and academic struggles (failing some college courses). Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I don't suggest lying, but literally almost everyone I know of has lied about something. He was counseled, evaluated, and treated for EIA. You might think to yourself, "How could he not know that he needed to disclose this information?" The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . The young man did see another counselor in the same clinic, who identified several other stressors in his life, including moving away from home to begin college, worries about the cost of college, and a strong fear of public speaking. After a few weeks, he began to complain of chest tightness, shortness of breath, and tunnel vision, which are classic signs of Exercise Induced Asthma (EIA), a potentially disqualifying condition. I was in the same spot. Bit of stretch that anybody would have any insight on this subject, but the only thing stopping me from getting accepted for MEPS is my LASIK documentation. We all come to this website for information and most of us have been corrected on our approach by the main contributors in some fashion. See Article 83 UCMJ. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. I even believed that my OR would appreciate my persistence in trying to get more info while he is on leave this week. They do that at the School of Infantry. He runs like 6 miles a day on it perfectly capable. My gramma always told me I had to be able to look at myself in the mirror, and know that if I couldn't-- I wouldn't sleep well at night. Our advice is consistently not to lie at MEPS. LASIK Surgery Checklist. Am I in danger like my friend said? Looking at your previous 11 posts it looks like you might be joining the Marines. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. MEPS, Eye Exam, and Lasik It is against the APC Forum Rules to advocate any labor action which is not authorized by the RLA/NMB. When we started to fill out similar questions with the recruiter I started saying 'yes' on some of the questions. I had lasik about 6 months ago and the recruiter originally told me that all I would need is a letter filled out by the doctor. As a reminder, this subreddit is for civil discussion. The medics at BMT requested and reviewed her civilian medical records to possibly determine the cause and any history of the condition. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! I wouldn't recommend it (even ignoring the important integrity aspects of your question. If MEPS already okayed my medical documents, can they go back and try to get more info? Instead, she had abysmal chances for waiver approval because she never got the additional examination needed for a waiver (plus lying isn't helpful to a case), so she was separated despite the recommendation of her MTI. My experience: I told the truth about something that should have been a non-issue. (if I do that then I would have to get all medical records I gave to them). This includes lying by omission (leaving information out) and lying by commission (purposefully misleading). Option 1: Being truthful and working a waiver that is doable. Now the most commonly performed eye laser surgery, LASIK involves creating a partial-thickness corneal flap and using an excimer laser to ablate the bed of the cornea. and our Meps to Meps transfer of record/file, how long does it take? Thank you for the quick replies. Own this and you may be surprised, if nothing else you will have evolved as a man. If they ask, tell them it's a scar from when you were a kid. A slight delay in schedule will not change your end game. I didn't want to throw anybody the bus just want the correct paperwork to be done because it would take a google search to find all that medical stuff on me and I would like to work in government, What do I do? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Questions about joining the Marines? Some people really really want to join, and they'll try anything. if the issue will not comprise your ability to serve in your unit and MOS, keep your mouth shut.. What about me? He said the tests they do would not notice the lasik scar it's only if you tell them you had lasik that they do more in depth tests if there's any issues. LASIK and LASEK are forms of corrective refractive eye surgeries, and both reshape corneas permanently. Be the first to receive exciting news, features, and special offers from Bodybuilding.com! Breaking subreddit rules may result in a ban from r/newtothenavy and r/navy. Sometimes Its in medical professionals best interests to lie. They don't understand how a broken leg or asthma when they were a kid can come back, they don't understand how mental issues are severely exacerbated under stress-- because they think their phone breaking is stress, and they dealt with that just fine. from USMCboot. What's the deal? Does MEPS pull your military medical records. Should I lie/not mention LASIK when I finally go to MEPs? It may not display this or other websites correctly. 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